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It's advice time! We've got a guest, Chris Thompson (you can find him on YouTube under the username supricky06) on today's video to give us a male point of view. Please bear with my technical issues - this was my first time recording video chat and it was a major learning experience. Now I'm looking forward to doing more of these he said/she said advice videos. Thanks for all the questions, keep them coming! Smiling

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discuss (23) Comments

Gorstagg's picture

Hi Brigitte,

I've got to say from my experience, "Jan's" first mistake was simply not communicating to "Tad". And he got bothered by the drastic change. They do have issues here and it appears to be on the communication front and this was just the catalyst to stir the pot.

Should a woman do whatever she wants with her hair? Hell yeah. Should she at least show her boyfriend a modicum of respect and let him know she's going to be physically changing her appearance, and he should prepare himself for it. Hell yeah. It's communication and it's important.

In the past with relationships I've been in, I've been supportive of my significant others decisions to make changes. If they are drastic, I try to explore the reasoning behind them, be it a psychological trigger to change one's life, or simply to do something new. Just to understand. But by the same token, with my facial hair and the hair on the top of my head, I often am subjected to expressed opinions. Including and up to them not being happy with the change. I accept their opinions, and out of respect, and because they have to look at me, I try to take into account their opinions, and weigh them, when I'm adjusting my appearance.

It's respect, and to be honest, there are quite a few biological cues that keyed with hair length, and luster. (But you can always go to livescience.com and explore them there.) The point being, it's a very touch subject for some people, but a good relationship will be stronger for this adversity, and hopefully they learn to talk. (And you, have a great long hair too. And though I wouldn't prefer to see it cut on you, I would respect your choice on the subject.)

tompetom's picture

Brigitte, I really love your beautiful long hair.. And of course this webshow:)

kingsman's picture

Geez. What is the matter with kids today. Everyone I know thinks I am this mad conservative, but even I know a woman has the right to do as she wants with her hair. If she wants to let it grow out, thats fine. If she wants it cut short, thats fine. I even took my 5 year old grand-daughter to get her hair cut when she said she wanted a short hair cut. her choice, not his.

and besides, I thought we guys were supposed to like variety. It is best when we get that variety from the woman we love and who loves us. Long hair, short hair redhead, blond or brunette doesn't matter, even if she goes for green or purple, it shouldn't matter if you are in love. And maybe changing the way she looks will create a situation where they learn to actually love each other more by getting to know each other better. Maybe she will find out he is to controling and not someone she wants to spend the rest of her life with.

Lord, even us neanderthals know that much.

I am a neanderthal, learn to live with it.

mroobalooba's picture

as a member of the male of our species i disagree that the boyfriend in question should have been consulted! his girlfriend can do whatever she likes to her appearence unless it was having her entire face pierced or getting a small tattoo that ended up covering her face with stars...it's not like it really affects him in any immediate way.
Just imagine if he went off and spent a lot of money that they'd been saving on something without consulting her...now that would be a bad thing and possibly reason for argument! Sticking out tongue

Wes20's picture

I agree with everyone that communication is the key here. But I disagree that it's solved with "please see me before you do anything drastic" type of talks. That's a indication of a gap in way that you share information in a relationship. If either side of the relationship had done a little bit more sharing (with opinions, preferences, etc), a talk would have been unnecessary, because it would have already occurred in smaller separate micro-talks.

For example:
(while/after watching a movie)
Guy: I don't really like how Actress A looks like in this movie. She looks better with longer hair.
Girl: (Hmm, good to know in case I decide to cut my hair!)

(sitting around)
Girl: I'm thinking of cutting my hair because I want a new look/tired of maintaining it, etc.
Guy: But, I think you look better with longer hair.

Point is, you won't need to "check-in" or schedule a talk to find out IF it will be a problem. You'll already have a good idea before you do anything. Relationships are tricky!

Cole...'s picture

You could try having your interviewee record their own video normally and then send you the whole file by email or filehosting. You could still use the vidoechat for interacting but you could then use the real video for editing. That would get rid of the no audio problem, as well as the terrible audio problem on the second guy.

As far as hair goes, getting in a fight with your girlfriend over her haircut, or even just being an [filtered word] about it when she shows up with it, means you are either more controlling than most people would accept as sane, very shallow, or just acting that way because you don't really care about your girlfriend anymore and wouldn't mind if she left.
That being said: hair is wierd. I really don't like short hair on women. I can understand the impulse to be unhappy about really short hair, but to act on that disapproval and even go so far as to be mad about it is either moronic or, as I said, speaking to ulterior motivations.

For those interested in evolutionary psychology: one theory of attraction to long hair, (and an account of the male/female hair disparity) is that hair is like an unfalsifiable record of health. Long hair is literally like a daily ticker tape of what kindof excess nutrients your body was putting out each day, stretching back for years. The increased preference of long hair on females over males is that female reproductive success has more to do with physical health whereas male reproductive success has more to do with access to resources/social standing.
This theory, and a lot of evolutionary psychology, could be indulgent nonsense, but it's interesting to think about - even if it is a little like sticking yourself in a zoo and poking yourself with a stick.

Brigitte Dale's picture

Thanks for the tech pointers. I'm definitely working on the many many kinks that showed up when I tried to make this one. And very interesting stuff about the psychology behind the long hair thing!! thanks

LincolnLad's picture

Today's show freaked me out on a few levels.

The whole thing(show) was just one question about hair. It is her hair, hopefullyou like HER not just her hair. Please give guys some credit for not all being self centered morons. Even if you hate it, the boyfriends code of conduct says you must 1) Acknowledge it, but that is never enough(learned that the hard way)....2) You must always compliment it(even if you hate it). If it really bothers you, that counts too but timing becomes the issue. Three weeks later or longer you can then mention that (even though you loved it!)you wished you had known in advance she was going to do it.

Also(off topic), you seemed kind of mean(very serious and somewhat indignant) when you responded with your thoughts, but then again you seemed nice when you actually appeared to be interacting wth the guy. Who are you?

Mean Brigette kinda scares me...(meow).

EDIT:
ps: When I posted this your voice came on out loud as the video auto restarted and I actaully jumped like you caught me doing something I shouldn't be. Wow.

Brigitte Dale's picture

mean? really? ohno i don't feel mean. Smiling

- - Jim Murphy's picture

Gasp Brigitte, Brigitte, Brigitte...

One of your most ardent fans nearly rips his foot off his leg, and for 318 days, you don't make one word of sympathy about it, either in email, comment or what have you... and you don't feel mean?

Big smile

samich's picture

Maybe this is just me but, I wouldn't care if my girlfriend drastically changed her hairdo. The problem for me would be that I'm slightly neurotic, and that means I would start wondering if she was truly happy in the relationship. I have often heard people say that some women change there appearance drastically when they get bored, relationship wise, and that might make me panic a little. Which is bad because people often say and do the wrong things when they are panicked. If she told me she was going to do it I probably wouldn't even think twice. But anyway, to fight about it after the fact is just dumb. O and there is always room for cookies Smiling Great video as always Brigitte.

- - Jim Murphy's picture

If I may interject a Biblical perspective: I Corinthians 7:4 says this: "The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife."

Notice, though, that THAT particular Biblical verse is talking about husbands and wives. Boyfriends don't exactly qualify as having the same claim with regard to their girlfriends as husbands have with their wives; therefore, I (as a guy) disagree with Chris Thompson that "Jan" should "have absolutely told her boyfriend". She's under no social, moral or legal obligation to him until they've walked down the aisle together. I DO, however, agree with Chris that communication is key to any relationship, and her taking the option of conferring with him ahead of time may have paid huge dividends in averting a train wreck. I also agree that, since the deed is done, Jan's boyfriend may as well buck up and live with it as pleasantly as he can. Life is too short to muddy a relationship over such a peripheral and reversible matter as hair length.

Brigitte... you don't have to warn us if you want to shave your head bald. Go for it!

Day 316

48brookelyn's picture

It is a guy thing that they like long hair. Although I have met exceptions....but most of them are old. lol So I don't know who to agree with. I feel like I owe loyalty to Brigitte, but Chris had some good points. I'm gonna go with what Robbie said. Smiling But I think that the girl definitely should have at least TOLD her boyfriend before she did it. I mean, it is her head, so she should do what he wants regardless of what he says. But maybe if she knew how he would feel about it, she would have chosen not to do it. I think I should be your guest star. ...Oh wait, I'm not a boy. Drats.

Brooke

NoSheDidnt's picture

I love this question. Me and my girlfriend have discussed this same issue. She has long beautiful thick black hair. It is one of the physical features that attracted me to her. It makes her look femine. In my opinion one the traits of a femine woman, which is what I'm attracted, is long hair. My girlfriend always tells me that she wants to cut it. I understand why because it does require a lot of time and effort to maintain. I've told her many times that I love her hair, as Brigitte suggested in the video, and that it makes her look beautiful.

My girlfriend has asked my opinion whether or not she should get a hair cut. My answer is, "if you want to get a hair cut you should". I truly believe that. I'm not going to like it, but if that is what she really wants and it will make her happy she should do it. I want her to be happy so even if this is something that I don't like I will not tell her not to cut it. Besides, I have a blue Velour Adidas sweat jacket that I absoutely love. My girlfriend tease me and calls it my "ghetto jacket". She sincerely does not like this jacket. I'm not going to stop wearing it because she does not like it.

So to make a short story long, I think that a woman should tell her boyfriend that she is planning on getting a haircut. The purpose of this conversation is not permision it is to inform him. You don't want him to react the way that Jan's boyfriend did. I'm not say it is right what he did, but I can understand it.

After Jan has gotten the hair cut her boyfiriend should back off. There should not be a long drawn out argument over this. At this point you have to accept what has happened. I think if she asks for your opinion you tell her the truth and let her know your preference is long hair. But after that conversation you let it go.

Comment: Ladies whenever you are unsure about what your boyfriend will think about a change you are contemplating to your appearance you will never go wrong with the feminine choice. A few examples to think about, long hair instead of short and dresses over pants.

Brigitte, will you provide us with a transcript of Robbie's comments?

bhcook567's picture

...Just LOOK at all the male comments agreeing with Chris...
I agree with you, Brigitte. Plus, what if she wanted to surprise him with this awesome new 'do? What now? I mean, I have done that before... you know, you want the whole, "Wow! You look so hot and different!" response. And then you get the, "WTH have you done to yourself" in a bad way response... that's just sad.
Siiiiigggggghhhhhh. That is all.

Joe436's picture

As much as I hate to disagree with Brigitte I'm afraid I have no choice in this matter. Chris is right. I'd even go further and say she shouldn't have done it at all. I can't speak for all guys, but I like girls with long hair. Yes it's shallow, and maybe even sexist. But as Heyheyjk pointed out, if a guy shaved off his full head of hair or made some other drastic change. You can bet his girlfriend would get just as upset. However! If Brigitte were to cut her hair short, I would still watch her videos. Her wit, humor, and intelligence far outweigh something as trivial as hair length.

PS. Ideas for next video: How to read lips. That way we can find out what Robby had to say.

Joe

NoSheDidnt's picture

Hey Joe,

I like your comment. I don't think is sexist or shallow to like long haired women. Men are attacted by the physical and you stay around because of the wit, humor and intelligence.

Joe436's picture

Thanks NoSheDidnt, And thanks for challenging Brigitte so she would make a great video.

Joe

Esther-Jane's picture

Great job on your first guest edition! Oh, and I loved your cookie analogy Big smile

a1rose's picture

Totally am not sure how i feel about this. LOL.

Love that you got a guys point of view. and I think I agree with your last statement. If a guy loves the long hair, make sure she knows that you are going to be totally upset if she all of a sudden chops it all off!!

Other than that... lol

[Adrienne]

aza's picture

Its always about the hair! Lads, we'll loose our hair eventually, let em do what they want. They are the experts. Now go eat them cookies. Brigitte, you been out in the sun. Looks good...... oh and...... nice hair Wink

heyheyjk's picture

This isn't about just changing any little thing, this is about hair. Most men like women with longer hair. It's a guy thing. Name one supermodel with short hair. I had this same thing happen with my wife and I wouldn't talk to her for hours. All women look good with longer hair, even the ones that still look good with shorter hair. It's like Chris said, if he really loved her long hair and then she wacked it off ... not good. I'm not saying it's fair for us to react like that, but what if your boyfriend shaved his head without telling you (and especially if he didn't really look that good with no hair). Would you be upset? It's not wearing a blouse he doesn't like and she can change it. Hair is a big deal for a guy and she could have discussed it first, at least, before doing something so drastic. Let the opinions fly.

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linh.nguyen's picture

I have to say, I think Chris nailed it... it's about the communication. Not necessarily the hair. Same thing happens the other way around. It's the feeling of neglect from being included in big changes that it hits on. She doesn't have to really agree or accept her bf will hate it, but it'd be less of an issue if it was brought up.

Of course, this really is always a balance of how much is too much sharing, or not enough. And usually the root of many a problems.