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OT: What Every Child Should Know About Thanksgiving
Posted Tue, 11/25/2008 - 22:17 — podkidoSecond only to Independence Day, Thanksgiving is a uniquely American holiday. And as an American holiday, it is rooted deeply -- like our nation -- in faith in God.
The earliest Thanksgivings were celebrated by Americans who were keenly aware that their blessings -- like their rights -- came from God. In times of hardship unimaginable to us today, they took time to give thanks to their Creator.
Throughout early American history, when they suffered from drought, famine or war, Americans paused, not to seek vengeance or to question their faith, but to give thanks to God for the blessings they still had.
At a time when the economic news seems to get worse every day, it’s important to remember the humble faith of these early Americans. They didn’t just give thanks when times were good, they gave thanks when times were bad -- especially when times were bad.
Radical Secularists Deny the Central Role of Religion in American History
Today is a decidedly different time in America.
Not only have many Americans forgotten or never learned the historic origins of our Thanksgiving -- to pause and give thanks to God for our abundance -- but radical secularists are intent on removing God and faith from our national life altogether.
Many of the entertainment and political elite seem to be threatened by religious faith.
Others seem intent on denying or whitewashing the central role that religious faith has played in American history, such as the attempt to whitewash God out of the Capitol Visitor’s Center. These radical secularists seek to portray those who acknowledge this historical fact as theocrats intent on imposing their religion on others.
In fact, to acknowledge the centrality of God in American history is to acknowledge America’s great freedom of religion -- the freedom to worship and the freedom not to worship. Many Americans have taken advantage of this freedom by drawing closer to their Creator. They understand, even if so many of our media and political elites don’t, that religious freedom is the cornerstone of all of our freedoms.
Voices From Thanksgivings Past
The centrality of God in Thanksgiving in America comes through in the words of some of our greatest national leaders:
Virginia Governor Thomas Jefferson, in 1779:
[I] appoint … a day of public Thanksgiving to Almighty God … to [ask] Him that He would … pour out His Holy Spirit on all ministers of the Gospel; that He would … spread the light of Christian knowledge through the remotest corners of the earth … and that He would establish these United States upon the basis of religion and virtue.
President George Washington’s first federal Thanksgiving proclamation in 1789:
Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor.… Now, therefore, I do appoint Thursday, the 26th day of November 1789 … that we may all unite to render unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection.
President Abraham Lincoln, making Thanksgiving an annual national holiday in 1863, in the midst of the Civil War:
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged, as with one heart and one voice, by the whole American people.
“Let Us Be Thankful For a Land That Will For Such Religion Stand”
Our leaders have not been alone in celebrating God’s gifts at Thanksgiving, of course.
I conclude today with a poem by Lizelia Augusta Jenkins Moorer, an African-American poet writing at the turn of the 20th century. Her generous, hopeful view of Thanksgiving is made even more remarkable by the suffering and discrimination she endured as an African-American in the late 19th and early 20th century.
Thanksgiving
Let us give thanks to God above,
Thanks for expressions of His love,
Seen in the book of nature, grand
Taught by His love on every hand.
Let us be thankful in our hearts,
Thankful for all the truth imparts,
For the religion of our Lord,
All that is taught us in His word.
Let us be thankful for a land,
That will for such religion stand;
One that protects it by the law,
One that before it stands in awe.
Thankful for all things let us be,
Though there be woes and misery;
Lessons they bring us for our good-
Later 'twill all be understood.
Thankful for peace o'er land and sea,
Thankful for signs of liberty,
Thankful for homes, for life and health,
Pleasure and plenty, fame and wealth.
Thankful for friends and loved ones, too,
Thankful for all things, good and true,
Thankful for harvest in the fall,
Thankful to Him who gave it all.
May you and your family have a happy, healthy, and blessed Thanksgiving.
Your friend,
Newt Gingrich

oh yeah... loads of hard times... I suppose killing, maiming, torturing natives was also a gift. Ah yes! Give thanks to god for giving them people so naive that it allowed the Christians to take total advantage and annihilate them!
I feel so 'badly' for those poor people... now whom gave birth to generations who think this land is THEIRS and now want to throw out foreigners when THEY are the foreigners... go figure.
famine, cold, etc. Oh sure...til a native shared food and shelter or furs, then they turned around a killed them. Yeah, good people those... very grateful.
(insert puke smiley)
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cnith,
I don't know how to express how sad your bitterness makes me. I really wish I could help.
You could help if you stop spreading history the way you are. It wasn't all suffering and pain ONLY for the pilgrims or whomever people's of your faith.
State history the way it really was, the ugly truth about people of your faith and at least then I would have nothing to say because you've spilt out the truth at least.
The way you say it, it sounds like poor them! And leave out the rest of the story. That just makes me angry and yeah, bitter. It's ugly and I know no one likes to spill out ugly about their past, but if you're going to say something, at least be accurate about it.
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After my picture fades and darkness turns to grey...
If you're lost, you can look and you will find me.
Time after time...
Unlike other Europeans who came to America, these Bible-believing Pilgrims were model Christians in their dealings with the native populations. During their first year on the Cape, Squanto, acting as a friend and interpreter, had assisted the Pilgrims in negotiating an important peace treaty with Chief Massasoit, leader of the nearby Wampanoag Indians. The two populations, Indian and Pilgrim, kept that treaty of peace for more than fifty years.
The first generation of pilgrims weren't bad people. Things went bad and there were many atrocities and broken treaties in our history. That is a well known fact but was beyond the scope of the discussion. The citizens of the US have gone through hardships and trials. And through them all our faith has carried us through.
My post never said the Christians were the ONLY people who suffered. I challenge you to find where it said anything of the sort. I would have to write a novel every time I posted if the total history and every aspect of the topic were discussed. Then there wouldn't be room for discussion. Everything would have been said.
OK well your history book must have had some pages/info missing...because Pilgrims, although bible toting and believing also thought they had to save the natives because they 'didn't know any better' and were bound to hell. Apparently sacred rituals appeared like devil worshippings or at the very least 'worshipping other gods/idols' to the Pilgrims... So they forced their religions onto the natives.
I don't ask you to write a book, Pod. I ask that if you're going to talk about suffering, don't just talk about one group of people. Especially when said group of people turned heinous.
Your thread talked about how there was famine and suffering back then and how it was their prayers and faith that saved them (ie. got through it all.) As if they were sent off into a desert island and somehow survived it. Where is the other side of the story? That it was actually the real Americans who helped them??
You said all kids should know this about thanksgiving...well Pod, you have to give the whole story, not just the part that makes your faith LOOK good. That's all I'm saying.
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After my picture fades and darkness turns to grey...
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Time after time...
This thread was part of a series of threads devoted to Thanksgiving. More information about the hardships endured and overcome was on this one:
http://community.abcfamily.go.com/forums/shows/kyle-xy/ot-origins-thanks...
I thought you read it as well.
I give up. Why does every positive, thankful, kind, thread head south? I think this shows me where Christians stand. Have a good night.
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Because there are people who like to make Christians look like saints, when they were not, Dawn. People of your faith have done horrible things in the name of your god.
I cannot and will not sit by and let the lies continue. That would be denying my people further, which is what everyone does anyway. I hate it!
IF Pod had merely said let's all be thankful and not mention christianity at all, none of this would have happened. But he keeps making threads about how great the Christians are and in others promoting hate of other religions. I'm not going to sit by and watch, no way... I'm no more PC than you are.
Just because I'm "fighting" against your beliefs doesn't mean that I should stay quiet. I wouldn't expect YOU to stay quiet if someone said, All Christians are devil worshippers who believe that Satan is God. Or if they said I will go around bombing each and every Christian church out there during mass time so we can obliterate them all. Or even if it was something as simple and 'unassuming' as Christians suck.
If you WOULD stay quiet then I don't know what kind of faith you have. But I wouldn't sit by and watch. I don't understand why you would.
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After my picture fades and darkness turns to grey...
If you're lost, you can look and you will find me.
Time after time...
playing with sarcasm again dawn?

Run by night, howl at the moon. Follow the sun's path. Be patient look only at the present. Learn from your mistakes and move on. Never back down from a challenge.
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ABC the following is Sarcasm.
PODKIDO!! How could you. Remember, this country has separation of church and state. It could not be a celebration about God, could it?
Not sarcasam: It is amazing how many celebrate this day but will not even acknowledge God. Strange, huh?
✝ Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things will be given unto you...✝
Thanks to God is the reason for the Thanksgiving holiday. And I for one feel blessed that this country has a day set aside to thank God for His love and mercy.
Me too.
✝ Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things will be given unto you...✝